My idea is to give every individual with a drivers license a gas card, this is not a credit card but a card that keeps track of how much gas you use and must be swiped pre-purchase. This plan would only apply to personal usage.

You allow everyone to purchase say 25 gallons a week at say 30% off the market price. if you exceed 25 gals you pay full market price up to 50, plus you're back charged the 30% for the first 25 gals. If you must use more than 50 a week you pay market for the 50 then 30% over market price from then on.

The percentages and amounts are just there to illustrate the concept, the exact figures should be left up to a statistical analysis of usage so please don't commit on my numbers. The idea is to,

1. Have as little new effect as possible on the average consumer, witch I think less than 50 gals a week describes.

2. Provide a financial  incentive for all to use less gas by any number of means, buying a fuel efficient vehicle, car pooling, public transportation etc. 

3. To have very  little effect on the profit per gal for the oil companies. Reduced usage will have an effect on their bottom line but well that's just tough.

I know this looks like another tax on the wealthy jet set yacht owners of the world and I guess it is, but at least it is optional and not a tax just on their money.  Exemptions could be made for the over 50 gals limit to those with exceptionally long work commutes or other legitimate reasons for needing a little more per week.   

Obviously implementing such a program would be costly but at least it wouldn't be wasteful, like mailers telling people their tax refund is going to be late. I think it would be a deserved thank you to those whom already take steps to conserve and a cash incentive to for others to do more without negatively effecting anyone.


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on Mar 31, 2008

You mean a 100 gallons month:

No I mean a 100 gals a week to pay exactly what your paying now.

Well I didn't add that up but it doesn't seem to me that 1200 miles a week for the two of you, that's assuming that your vehicles only get 12mpg, is not going to be enough but like I said exceptions can be made to keep necessary usage from costing you anymore. If you can't keep under 25 you can't do it, nothing changes for you, you pay the same as your paying now.

someone will have to pay for that 30% discount.

Yes people using more than 50 gals a week.

A tax on a "lifestyle" vehicle (like a full ton truck or a gigantic SUV) would be a better deterent than a government limit (god, that scares the crap out of me) placed on anything.

It's not a limit, you can buy as much gas as you want, but if you can use less you pay less.

 

on Mar 31, 2008
No I mean a 100 gals a week to pay exactly what your paying now.


OK, now you have me confused. First you say 25 gals a week, now you say 100. That's a lot of gas for an idea aimed at conserving.

Well I didn't add that up but it doesn't seem to me that 1200 miles a week for the two of you, that's assuming that your vehicles only get 12mpg, is not going to be enough but like I said exceptions can be made to keep necessary usage from costing you anymore. If you can't keep under 25 you can't do it, nothing changes for you, you pay the same as your paying now.


So then it's pointless. This idea should not be based on only those who can do it 25 and under. It should be aimed to work for everyone.

Yes people using more than 50 gals a week.


And that would not be fair for people who have no choice. Not everyone is lucky enough to work with a few minutes from their homes. Not to mention that highway traffic cost a lot of todays consumption. No point in having 75 Miles to the gallon cars when you spend 1 gallon in 3 miles of traffic. And accidents on the road? Forget it.

It's not a limit, you can buy as much gas as you want, but if you can use less you pay less.


It is because in order for it to work, in order for people to save and to consume less, you are forced to limit yourself. Unless you wanna be known as the guy/girl who refuses to consume and then they may actually blamed you for over consuming when they are trying to save.
on Mar 31, 2008
Gas cards wouldn't be practical
Why?

Too big of scale. You'd have corruption, incompetence, a huge bureaucracy, a black market for cards...
Tax rebates for people who drive fuel efficient vehicles might be better.
Just because you drive a fuel efficient car doesn't mean you don't burn 200+
gals a week on other recreational vehicles. I think the only fair way is to tie
it to usage.

That would be the most fair way but also the most difficult to implement and enforce.
on Mar 31, 2008

OK, now you have me confused. First you say 25 gals a week, now you say 100. That's a lot of gas for an idea aimed at conserving.

50 gals for you 50 for your wife, every individual gets 50 gals before they have to pay more. If your confused it has nothing to do with me.

So then it's pointless. This idea should not be based on only those who can do it 25 and under. It should be aimed to work for everyone.

This isn't about giving everyone a break on the backs of the rich it's about conserving gas as a nation so it does work for everyone.

And that would not be fair for people who have no choice. Not everyone is lucky enough to work with a few minutes from their homes. Not to mention that highway traffic cost a lot of todays consumption. No point in having 75 Miles to the gallon cars when you spend 1 gallon in 3 miles of traffic. And accidents on the road? Forget it.

What ever, life's not fair daddy didn't leave me a million dollars, there's always something isn't there.

It is because in order for it to work, in order for people to save and to consume less, you are forced to limit yourself.

That is the very definition of conservation, this just sweetens the advantage and nobodies forcing you to do anything.

Too big of scale. You'd have corruption, incompetence, a huge bureaucracy, a black market for cards...

I don't understand why this would have to be that hard, your only giving a card to those that have a drivers license and your card code would be tied to that drivers license. If someone made a counterfeit card it would have to tied to a drivers license in the DMV files and you would know if you bought gas in Kansas. Existing credit card readers could be used to send the information back to a central computer that keeps track of your usage.

It's a shame when we don't try something because we're to stupid to implement it.

 

 

 

on Apr 01, 2008
Shame them into changing the law.


Do you know why the minimum markup law was put in place in Wisconsin in the first place? Wal-Mart. Because politicians were "shamed" into forcing retailers to apply a minimum markup because of alleged unfair business practices. So the wheel goes round and round.

I agree, your heart's in the right place, but your article on nuclear energy hits closer to the mark. We are where we are because we haven't evolved better technologies in a century and a half of the internal combustion engine's existence.
on Apr 06, 2008

Maybe I missed it, but who is going to pay for the 30% discount?

Just looking at rough numbers, the U.S. uses about 146 billion gallons of gas per year (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question417.htm) which works out to about 28 gallons per week per household. So assuming more than one driver per household, everyone is already using less than 25 gallons per week and so everyone would get the 30% discount (I know this isn't the case, I am just going for the extreme example). For calculations sake, lets assume gas sells for $3 per gallon. A 30% discount would be $1 per gallon, so the annual cost of this program (before we add in all the bureaucracy) is $146 billion per year.

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